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DeKalb's School Budget Deficit: What Would You Do?

The DeKalb County School System is facing an $85-million deficit that's forced the school board to make some tough decisions.

  • The superintendent is recommending a 2-mill tax rate increase. How about you?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • 1/2 mill rate increase
        15 (4%)
    • 1 mill rate increase
        44 (13%)
    • 2 mill rate increase
        81 (24%)
    • No tax increase. Cut from the budget.
        190 (57%)
    Total votes: 330
  • Where would you cut from the school district's budget?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • About $2.7 million from pre-kindergarten programs
        34 (9%)
    • Increase class size by two students
        35 (10%)
    • Trim $3.6 million from magnet allotments
        31 (8%)
    • Cut $3.2 million from Fernbank Science Center
        53 (15%)
    • All of the above
        96 (27%)
    • None of these. Cut something else.
        96 (27%)
    Total votes: 345
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
 

The DeKalb School board is set to vote on a budget Wednesday, and that budget is going to cut deeply into district programs.

The district is considering an array of cuts, like eliminating transportation to magnet programs, cutting a district supplement to pre-kindergarten programs, gutting funding for the popular Fernbank Science Center and eliminating extra teachers in magnet programs.

Here are the big issues:

  • The district is facing an $85-million deficit, which grew to that that number last week on the news that DeKalb County's tax digest was lower than expected. That will cost the district an estimated extra $12 million.
  • The district hasn't made public its proposal to cut the extra millions from the budget – which already features increasing class sizes by two students district-wide, which means fewer teachers.
  • The board will likely balance the budget with a mix of deep cuts and an increase of taxes. The board has come to a tentative agreement to increase taxes by one mill, which is projected to raise $14.8 million next year.

Below is an explanation of some of the high-profile cuts the district is proposing. They aren't the biggest cuts, but they've received quite a bit of attention from county residents. Be sure and vote in our poll about how you would go about balancing the budget. And leave us some comments.

Pre-kindergarten
The district could save $2.7 million by scaling back its kindergarten program.

  • Superintendent Cheryl Atkinson didn't recommend cutting funding to the pre-kindergarten program, but it's one of the board's options to cover the wide deficit.
  • Eliminating the district's allocation to the pre-kindergarten program would mean the school system would offer only what the state pays for.

Timing is an issue with pre-kindergarten as well. Many parents have already received news that their children are eligible for the program through the district's lottery. Cutting the program entirely would put those parents in a tough spot considering many have already passed on other options such as private daycare.

"To me, that's a commitment you've made to people," said Nancy Jester, District 1 school board representative. "That's a spot in private daycare they relinquished."

The upshot to cutting the pre-kindergarten program? If the district eliminates its portion of the pre-kindergarten funding teachers would not have to be fully certified teachers, which could affect staffing. Also, the state mandates fewer days of pre-kindergarten than the district's calendar.

If adopted, DeKalb's pre-kindergarten program would be similar to Fulton County, which works without a local supplement.

Larger class sizes
Larger class sizes means fewer teachers. Atkinson has recommended increasing class sizes by two students for a savings of $14 million. A more austere budget that would include no tax increase would enlarge class sizes by three students for a savings of $21 million.

Walter Woods, school system spokesman, said DeKalb could take on fewer teachers this year, especially as teachers in programs that could shrink – like Montessori and at the Fernbank Science Center – could be moving into spots the district needs to fill.

The district is also saying retirees and attrition could help stave off layoffs.

"We expect to hire fewer teachers," he said. "I don't have a hard number."

Magnet allotments
The reduction of "magnet allotments" would trim $3.6 million in the Superintendent's proposed budget.

  • The allotment allowed the magnet schools to have lower teacher-to-student ratios because of the extra funding.

That will likely go away regardless of what version of the cuts cuts are adopted.

Magnet schools would then be calculated based on the needs of the students at the magnet schools, like at other schools in the system, Jester said.

"It seems like people seem to understand you earn your teacher allotment," Jester said. "There shouldn't be extra teachers based on the fact that you have a magnet program."

Fernbank Science Center
The school board has also rubbed up against the very vocal Fernbank community (once again) with a proposal to cut $3.2 million from the Fernbank Science Center, a popular field trip destination and learning center for many students in the county. The well-organized Fernbank community has risen up against the proposal – successfully, at first, as the proposed reduction was eliminated from consideration. Until last week.

The morning before the school board’s meeting last week, Atkinson slipped the majority of the center’s $4.7 million budget back on the chopping block. But the board tabled its budget vote until Wednesday. The Fernbank reduction would excise many of the center's programs and 56 staff members. But school system officials say the center would remain open and "fully functional" for the roughly 160,000 students who visit it each year.

    A PDF of all the cuts the school board is considering is attached at right. What do you think of the options? How would you plug the school board's budgetary hole? Tell us in the comments section below.

    Related Topics: 2013 Budget, DeKalb county school system, and Dekalb county board of education

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    Jason Massad

    8:45 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Tell us what you think about the possible changes to pre-kindergarten. Did your child get a lottery spot in the district? Would you be satisfied with a scaled back pre-kindergarten program?

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    bulldogger

    11:32 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Yeah, since it's nothing more than a "Baby Sitting" service, I say......"Cut 'er out"

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    Ebonei Harris

    3:58 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Fernbank should be cut. It will be fully operational without funding from DCSS. It needs to GO! I say cut the administrators at the DOLA program and consolidate it with EAHS. Consolidate the Dekalb Earfly Learning program(housed at MIC) with the other Magnet programs. Magnet reductions. Reduce more administrative office personnel; too many job over lapping positions.

    Anna Benefield

    9:33 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Has there been discussion of selling off the empty buildings in the county? I can name at least five in this area alone that are empty and unused or underused. I'm pretty sure the property on N. Druid Hills alone could recover the recent 12 million dollar shortfall.

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    Jim Kinney

    9:53 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Selling of real estate is an easy short term fix. But, current real estate bubble popping not included, the cost to acquire school building places does only increase.
    I'm very not sure on the legal implications but perhaps the unused building could be reused as fees paying community centers or something similar. That cuts the outlay of cash for maintenance and can, with the right tenants, provide a revenue stream.

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    bulldogger

    11:34 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Yeah, you know, I agree with you; however, the idiots that comprise the DCSS BOE live on another planet and it's extremely hard to get through to them.

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    David D

    11:51 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    That sounds like a good idea, but how many of those buildings belong to the school system? All levels of government, not just the schools, are hurting.
    I'm a taxpayer who does not mind paying a fair share of property taxes for the school system. HOWEVER, the fact that the school board can change taxes without serious political consequences, and the fact that churches and private schools can evade property taxes makes me sick. Since the school board can raise taxes anytime it wishes, then it's time to treat them as politicians and hold them truly accountable.

    Jim Kinney

    9:33 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Start by culling <strong>all</strong> the positions between principal and superintendent. Then raise the millage to the maximum allowed. There's no future that includes any public school getting "fully funded". Next, and this is the hard one, start the pay cuts at the top. It's not feasible to do across the board x% because the bottom end is already low enough. Instead, a top-weighted cut structure that reduces the top salaries down to what a 20 year veteran teacher makes.
    Cuts are not the better alternative when it deals with schools.The South has a long history of not funding schools well already. It should be obvious from the poll as most responses (58%) only want to cut education funds that there is a serious problem with our community as it views the merits of education. I have heard people who own businesses in DeKalb complaining about having to pay property taxes and in the same breath complaining about how under prepared their workers are out of high school.
    It's time to start knocking on every business in DeKalb with hat in hand and say "cough it up for the schools". Asking they pitch in $100 per hourly worker and $500 per salaried worker is a good starting point. If they can't write a check right then, maybe a public radio/TV pledge process where they donate it over the next few months will make it easier. Make sure the churches are on the donation list as well. They don't pay in at all as tax code stands now.

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    bulldogger

    11:40 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Jim, enough money is not the problem......what is being done with it (wasted) is the problem. You know if you'd like to pay more taxes than your bill says, YOU CAN DO IT. There's no one stopping you.

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    lastminutemom

    12:10 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    DeKalb funds things that other school systems don't. For example, pre-k. The state funds it at X level, and any systems still offering pre-k, pay the same salaries that the state funds (X). DeKalb funds it using their own salary scale, Y and therefore, it is costing us Y-X=Z. Those dollars should not have been spent all these years. Poor decision making all along has led us to this point.
    There is much room to cut positions, not salaries, because it is the positions that are the issue -- too many employees in the central office. Cut all these excess positions, who has secretaries today, anyway?
    Money isn't the issue, but things likes spending the extra pre-k dollars, millions on transportation for magnets and extra teachers for magnets, and yes, Fernbank have helped put us in this position.

    David D

    9:42 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    I think it also is time to start knocking on the doors of the non-profits who do not pay property taxes. And, I DO mean churches, too.

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    Paula

    10:01 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Cut the central office to the bare bones, so much so that they rattle around in the palace; cut Fernbank Science Center funding 50% this year and tell them they have one year to find alternative funding or they are shut down; fund pre-k at the state level, but still house in our schools - getting to our children early, education wise, is vital; our politicians must be made to realize that this equalization funding that we as taxpayers of DeKalb provide to other counties must cease until and unless the financial health of DeKalb County ever recovers.

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    Jim Kinney

    1:34 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    Fernbank Science Center has asked for permission to pursue alternate funding methods for several years now. The chain of commend all the way to the board as basically ignored them. It takes time to do the external funding process so a 1 year deadline at 1/2 staff might is pretty much a death sentence.

    janet Johnson

    10:13 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Get rid of that empty property on North Decatur Rd. Surely it could be sold to bring in some income.

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    bulldogger

    11:42 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Janet, in that area, it'd be an extremely hard sell and even if you could find a buyer, the price would be ridiculously low.

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    Anna Benefield

    12:50 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    I agree with selling all of these properties. Medlock, Heritage (which has been sporatically empty for 30 years) the 4 other schools they closed a couple of years ago, Briarcliff HS, Avondale HS/Middle School... It all adds up. Sure its not THE solution but why carry a property burden for decades (Braircliff) that with every reinvention and uninvention costs more and more money. With the rise of private schools it seems like some of these buildings would be an idea location. It's time to think outside the box.

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    William

    12:56 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    bulldogger-

    I think you have a point...you don't want to compound financial irresponsibility by making bad decisions about selling property, BUT I'm not sure the BOE has the luxury of sitting on empty buildings. A commenter above talked about asking business for hand outs...well, maybe asking them to buy the property would make more sense.

    Certainly the old Open Campus property on N. Druid Hills is a great example. Sell it. Now.

    Another example is the old Chamblee Middle School...you have a site that is uninhabitable and unfit for entry. (Those are the word of the BOE).
    http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/www/documents/vision-2020/facility-report-shallowfordEs-%282011-09-13%29.pdf

    However, instead of selling the property, we are paying to keep the A/C on and the lights on and the grass mowed...
    http://www.11alive.com/news/article/241884/3/Taxpayer-questions-lights-left-on-at-empty-school

    Oh...and as an added fun note, the BOE apparently has sooooo much money, that they can donate property to the county instead of getting FMV.
    http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/dekalb-school-board-donates-1404682.html

    And don't forget...when the BOE sells the land, it not only will receive the purchase price, but it will also receive revenue from the property taxes of the redeveloped property. The BOE shouldn't be land speculators. If they stop using the property, they should sell it. Immediately.

    Molly Krava

    11:26 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    My daughter did get in the lottery and I was so happy about the ease on my families budget and that her and my other daughter will be at the same school for a while, though I am a bit wary of cuts to that program. Plus music has been cut from my daughter's school which makes me sad. It is sad to me, I say cut administration as much as possible and sell property.

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    Margaret Cantrell

    12:34 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    Thanks for mentioning the music. People are (rightly!) so upset about the large-scale, front-line cuts to pre-K and Fernbank Science Center. But these smaller scale cuts to P.E. and music are very near and dear to the teachers who were deemed as "overage" and to the students who will no longer have music in their school.

    Nigel McGinty

    11:37 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Cut all salaries over $60,000. The school system handed out high salaries and generous raises during the real-estate bubble. Solving our current crisis should begin with a correction to past overindulgence, not by punishing our students by taking away programs.

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    Paula

    1:00 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Jason, is Patch going to blog the Budget meeting tomorrow?

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    Jason Massad

    1:30 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Yes Paula, we plan to be there live blogging the event.

    Anna Benefield

    1:06 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    The county has to start looking outside the typical government inside the box fixes. Obviously those do not work. They need to think of using their assets for revenue. I know that sounds crazy but the government can actually MAKE money instead of spending it. It's all about expanding views instead of shutting them down. IMO, each school should have a self-employed after school program (like Fernbank, Oak Grove, and many others) I also think these after school programs should be extended to the middle schools where the after school activities, such as sports and clubs are provided by private groups, paid for privately by the students who choose to participate. There is currently a successful program like this at East Lake Charter School (of which I have taught after school class at for 5 years as a contracted employee). I know for a fact Fernbank makes a profit from their after school program as well as other schools. This money then goes back into the school so they don't need the county to help with improvements. Maybe we should stop thinking about how to cut resources and how to add them, while making them an asset and not a drain.

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    bulldogger

    8:16 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Anna, there's plenty of money, just cut the waste

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    Anna Benefield

    10:45 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    You can't convince me keeping and maintaining any unused property for over 30 years isn't wasteful.

    SwimNGolfMom

    2:32 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    MTV used the vacant property on N. Druid Hills to tape their series "Teen Wolf". Do we know how much was money was received from that?

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    Jonathan Cribbs

    3:47 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Not much. About $1,500 a day during filming. I wrote about it a year and a half ago.

    Lisa Carlysle

    4:12 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    First cut the expense packages of all employees. This is one of the first things that corporations do when tightening budgets. It is time to cut the magnet transportation. I believe we are the only county that provides this. Magnet school ratios need to go higher. Why? I believe the magnet classes since they can pick and choose and have charters have less discipline problems than the have nots.

    I also agree with Nigel about the salary cuts. I may adjust to a little higher but not much. Paras, bus drivers, janitorial staff, cafeteria workers are the lowest paid and it just might sink them to below the poverty line.

    Offer incentives to those who are maxed out to retire, these are probably some of the higher salaried staff anyway.

    We need the commissioners and our schools to work together to make this a viable community or we are all sunk. Come talk to Burrell Ellis tonight at Mountain Creek Pool in Smokerise tonight at 7 p.m.!

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    What goes around comes around

    6:16 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Lisa - "Burrell Ellis" ??????? ROFLMAO. I'll be too busy watching paint dry.

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    J

    10:42 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    Eliminate extraneous personnel from the schools. There are far too many employees that have little to nothing to do with education. From Nurses and psychiatrists who could be completely removed or at least privatized, to librarians who could be easily replaced with computers, the staff is bloated and ineffective. There are many other examples of such positions. Administration is also far overstaffed. These individuals do not add to the educational value of our children's experience and so when times are tough they should be the first to go. Cut down to the people doing the teaching.

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    Anna Benefield

    10:46 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

    I can't wait to see how those computers order/restock/supervise/educate and manage a library.

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    Alani

    1:12 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    Wow! "Cut down the to the people doing the teaching..."So having a full or partime nurse is unimportant. Not only do teachers deal with behavioral issues and have to start and stop lessons to deal with them, they will also become classroom nurses when little Johnny or Annie is sent to school with the flu, etc or becomes ill during the school hours and mommy and daddy can't/won't come get him/her right away. Computers can replace an actual person who teaches students and staff to correctly perform research? Computers can also help promote literacy?! I would love to see computers instruct and support students and teachers with the new core curriculum and Dr. A's new reading pet-project (Success for All). Also, who or what will maintain the library (shelve, supervise, etc)?

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    North Georgia Weather

    5:01 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    You really have no idea what goes on in a school, do you?

    lastminutemom

    8:07 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    Mr. Kinney,
    Cutting FSC and allowing it to form private-public partnerships is the first start in saving it for the future. Next year, there will be higher fixed costs and even less revenue. In addition, we must find a way to restore all that has been lost for our teachers and to decrease class sizes. Those must be the priorities for DeKalb schools moving forward. Just yesterday, I heard of two really terrific teachers leaving our neighborhood middle school for another metro county. The hemorrhaging has started. This makes 15 teachers between three schools that are leaving DeKalb. 12 of them will be missed.

    DeKalb can no longer do more than Fulton and Cobb, which all have more money that we do and both have a far less challenging population. The advocacy for Fernbank has been impressive and I know that there is tremendous wisdom in that group.

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    joan McCormick

    3:48 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

    Why isn't the TV station closed and sold?

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    Cerebration

    8:41 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012

    FWIW, once again this is all smoke and mirrors. The board did NOT vote on a budget. They voted on a list of budget CUTS. They did not SEE or REVIEW a budget whatsoever. They voted on these cuts blindly - without knowing anything about the full budget and department allocations at the time. They never voted on a budget - just on a list of cuts recommended by the superintendent.

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    Phil

    9:23 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012

    Cut the Central Offfice in the Education department. Dekalb has commissioned studies on staffing and they have only implemented the recommendations partially. Do ALL the recommendations! Focus on the kids learning.

    And I agree with the concept of outsourcing many functions like psychiatrists and nurses. And there are many more "non-teaching" positions that can be looked at.

    Raises taxes is just another way of saying mismanagement is going on.

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